First Amendment Auditor Shade George “Audit Them” Ghanayem responded to criticism aimed at our release of a document in his on-going civil and criminal cases against David “Dr. Dave” Coulter on Thursday by filming himself going to the cook County, Illinois, Courthouse and attempting to prove that the document was real.
The document, which we obtained through a source not related to either Ghanayem or Coulter, purported itself to be a conditions of pretrial release instruction for Coulter, who is currently on trial for violating a civil protective order obtained by Ghanayem.
Almost immediately after posting it, criticism of the document flooded in. Accusations were made towards the document being faked as there appeared to be multiple different handwriting samples on the page and Coulter denied that his instructions included giving up his firearms.
Ghanayem livestreamed during his ride over to the Cook County Courthouse and then restarted the stream when he entered the records room of the facility. He interacted with other patrons and approached a computer to access the records associated with the case and showed the document that we released last week.
Screen shots of the document (available on both our YouTube community page and the text version of this document) matched the document we released last week. This includes the alleged multiple handwriting samples.
He followed it up with the same details of the pre-release conditions within the computer system itself. They clearly show:
- Refrain from possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapon
- Surrender FOID to Clerk and Firearms to Law Enforcement by
- Refrain from communicating with particular persons
- Refrain from going to certain geographic areas
It also apparently sets a court date for September 29, 2026.
Critics were quick to jump on our publication of the screen shots from his livestream. They correctly pointed out that while the screen shots prove that the document is authentic, it does not actually prove the need for a protective order against Coulter or the criminal case pending against Coulter for allegedly violating the protective order.
There also remained criticism of the protective order being classified in a domestic violence court, since Coulter lives in Ohio and Ghanayem lives in Illinois and the two are not part of a domestic couple.
This can be explained, however, as all protective order cases in Cook County are handled by the domestic violence courts.
Further criticism has been made towards Ghanayem’s case as Coulter has classified his videos telling Ghanayem to “go jump in a lake” as supposed “death threat” included in Ghanayem’s petition for the protective order.
Others have criticized Ghanayem’s previous actions against Coulter, including allegedly swatting Coulter earlier this year when Coulter was going to a hospital for blood work. Police investigated the incident but declined to press charges against Ghanayem or anyone else for that incident.
Ghanayem himself has used the on-going action against Coulter to warn Coulter’s associates that they may be facing future charges as well for helping Coulter to allegedly violate the protective order. While he did not specify who he was targeting, he said someone from New York and someone from Texas would be the next to be targeted by his actions.
Coulter and Ghanayem’s YouTube rivalry has been legendary over the past few years as both are considered to be “gateway drugs” into the world of first amendment auditors. That rivalry is not expected to end after the civil and criminal cases resolve, and Coulter has pledged that he will be vindicated in up-coming court hearings when he is allowed to present his side of the story.
This is a developing news story.
JF They correctly pointed out that while the screen shots prove that the document is authentic, it does not actually prove the need for a protective order against Coulter or the criminal case pending against Coulter
What a bunch of whiney Sovcits.
Their argument is something like
“They did not prove anything. They need to prove thing to MY satisfaction. And as the only person in the universe, it cannot BE done.”
Spoken by ANY Sovcit in any case is any jurisdiction in any court anywhere in the world.
And yet also, completely and totally wrong.
What a surprise.
In order to get a protection order, you need not prove anything. You do not even get a chance to present evidence. Nor does the other side even get a chance to be heard.
You must present sufficient allegations to a judge, magistrate, someone in a position of authority to issue such an order, taking into consideration all that is said, in the best possible light, find there is a a possibility or probability of some danger or physical harm to the person who is requesting the order.
That is it.
It is not a high bar to cross. You just have to have something to present.
What usually happens, in a failed attempt, the person comes in and has done no prep, has nothing factual and is merely wasting the court time.
“Judge, he said mean things about me!”
What did he say said the judge
MEAN things
errr. ya.
Whereas, you go in and say specific factual things:
“On video, he said he has a gun, knows how to use it, and if i see him, i had better start running.”
or
“Nice place you got here. Shame if something were to happen to it”
or
“Don’t come around, its dangerous, people like you end getting hurt when they come around here.”
Then say something along the lines of; fear for my life, fear of being harmed etc. And the judge will, taken into consideration all that has been said in the best possible light, you will get a temporary restraining order for a very limit duration. long enough for the court to notify the other party, allow them time to get council, ie a lawyer and show up to court, more or less, prepared to courter the allegations.
Such as: “I never said anything like that. I was watch a B roll gangster movie from the 30tys. That he was eavesdropping and overheard. Here let me play you the clip from the movie…”
This is not rocket science. Well, it is above say, bicycle science, ask our budding Lame as he rots in jail. Lost his GF and basically is going to spend the next few years as a guest of prison system. All for his unrelenting obsession. The stressor is? Was it his GF dumping him before he went crazy or was that after… I betcha it was before
GF dumped him, he starts stalking again. Now, his love of prison meatloaf will be forever satisfied. Next just ask for the receipt? Too much trouble?
Anyways. Both sides of this are losers. Both sides have a bunch of idiots supporting them. And frankly, this is why the court system is so jammed. Too many idiots crying about how their “RIGHTS” are being violated. Dave is an idiot who has a gun but lives a long way away. But lets run to the judge and tell him how you are in fear of your life. Why? Why not. It gets clicks and views and donations?
Otherwise, it beats getting a job and or working for a living.
From Youtube
@AuditThem
2 hours ago (edited)
This is a warning to all the individuals who have encouraged the criminal Dave to continue his criminal Enterprise even after he was warned by three separate judges he will be facing jail time. Govern yourself accordingly because I have access to all your comments and I will narrow down to the criminal comments and defamation and I will hold several individuals to account. Mark my words. Most of you keyboard warriors through out your first amendment speech out the window when you started making threats behind your keyboard which will be used against you and you will be tied to Dr Dave predatorial and racist rhetoric forever
My reply also on Youtube
Oh for goodness sake, shut up already. You got Dave because he is an idiot. Nameless others? What you are threatening is a form of prior restraint. And the key there is threatening. You are making threats. Any case where YOU started by making blanket threats will get a toss because YOU are an idiot. If you had a lawyer and thankfully, it is clear, you do not, they would tell you to SHUT UP. Don’t make threats, don’t try to restrain anyone from saying anything. Let them do it and then go to court. Your comment? would automatically get your case tossed for making threats. For some reason, judge just don’t like people who make threats and then ask for protection when others so threatened tell you their opinion of you.
Oh and while you are clearly showing your @$$ here. Having a random screen name does not entitle you to the same protection that using your real name does. You have to prove there is a connection between you and the screen name that is exclusive such that no one else could possible be speaking of when they say your name. And if that burden is not enough, you have to probe that person make such a threat to your random screen name, knew that who you are etc. Think Cher. Rupaul, Oprah. etc. Their single word name may be used by others but they are the ones connected to the name itself. Do you really think anyone outside the fraudiiting community knows who you are?? And even inside of it, you are so minor that if not for this phony lolsuit/court order you would not be forgettable, you would be a nobody. not even to remember in the first place.
As for defamation? A screen name cannot be defamed. See above.
You cannot collect damages unless you can show harm, ie that someone said something and that something hurt my reputation such that I lost money. You just have to connect the comments to your screen name, show the screen is connected to your person, show that other people know of the connection and those other people then did not employ you or withheld money you would normally have earned but for the defamation…
Oh and, for the record, a true statement is never defamation. So calling you an idiot is a true state if only it were not an opinion as well.
But feel free to make threats. It shows just how silly you are and how weak your position. Think Cartman from South Park, “You will respect my authority” err. ya.
Do you happen to be friends with Lame in a cage by chance? he has pretty much the same idea what is law and how to use it. Or maybe your buddies with chilli?
Eric Brandt? Sheepdog? I almost forgot David Earl Warden! So many lawyers all of whom presently reside in the care of authority. But wait chilli is not yet in jail. Nope he is one the run, a wanted man fleeing lawful authority. Oh for goodness sake, shut up already. You got Dave because he is an idiot. Nameless others? What you are threatening is a form of prior restraint. And the key there is threatening. You are making threats. Any case where YOU started by making blanket threats will get a toss because YOU are an idiot. If you had a lawyer and thankfully, it is clear, you do not, they would tell you to SHUT UP. Don’t make threats, don’t try to restrain anyone from saying anything. Let them do it and then go to court. Your comment? would automatically get your case tossed for making threats. For some reason, judge just don’t like people who make threats and then ask for protection when others so threatened tell you their opinion of you.
Oh and while you are clearly showing your @$$ here. Having a random screen name does not entitle you to the same protection that using your real name does. You have to prove there is a connection between you and the screen name that is exclusive such that no one else could possible be speaking of when they say your name. And if that burden is not enough, you have to probe that person make such a threat to your random screen name, knew that who you are etc. Think Cher. Rupaul, Oprah. etc. Their single word name may be used by others but they are the ones connected to the name itself. Do you really think anyone outside the fraudiitng community knows who you are?? And even inside of it, you are so minor that if not for this phony lolsuit/court order you would not be forgettable, you would be a nobody. not even to remember in the first place.
As for defamation? A screen name cannot be defamed. See above.
You cannot collect damages unless you can show harm, ie that someone said something and that something hurt my reputation such that I lost money. You just have to connect the comments to your screen name, show the screen is connected to your person, show that other people know of the connection and those other people then did not employ you or withheld money you would normally have earned but for the defamation…
Oh and, for the record, a true statement is never damation. So calling you an idiot is a true state if only it were not an opinion as well.
But feel free to make threats. It shows just how silly you are and how weak your position. Think Cartman from South Park, “You will respect my authority” err. ya.
Do you happen to be friends with Lame in a cage by chance? he has pretty much the same idea what is law and how to use it. Or maybe your buddies with chilli?
Eric Brandt? Sheepdog? I almost forgot David Earl Warden! So many lawyers all of whom presently reside in the care of authority. But wait chilli is not yet in jail. Nope he is one the run, a wanted man fleeing lawful authority.